Looking for a more detailed History

[broncoblitz]

I was going to ask this in a PM to help flesh out a character im starting but i figured this would be something everyone would want an answer to.

We all know that the war has been going on for a generation, but how long is that exactly(i.e. exact years)?

How long ago did the City of Dasar really fall?

What were some of the other great cities that were destroyed in the initial invasion?

Have any of the Varana Emporers had names that would be common knowledge among the people of Daris?

What of Dasarian Kings, we have heard rumors of a prince, but what were some of the original Kings names?

What action (if any) led to the initial Varana invasion?


Thats all the questions i can think of now, ill add more if i think of them.

[egypt1]

These are all great questions. I'd love to hear the answers to these and also, I was wondering, Is there a timeline type record of events that have taken place since the server has been live? That is, major events that have happened since Dasaria has been a PW on NWN? I think that for many that are newer to the server (and for those who aren't hardcore players), this could be really helpful to flesh out major recent events, as all who have been here before the wipe have been involved in the making of this recent history in some form or other. Just a thought. I've been around for almost a year now, but I'm sure that I didn't catch everything that happened. I'd love to read about what I've missed.

[Jimmy]

A timeline would be a very very handy thing to have on the forums. Jeh or Mel would probably be the best for the job, but they're probably hell busy, so I'll just anxiously await the arrival of the update.
*sits in his chair staring at the wall, waiting*

-Jimmy

[Jehannum]

We all know that the war has been going on for a generation, but how long is that exactly(i.e. exact years)?.

The conflict between what is now Dasaria and what is now Varana have origins reaching back several hundred years. This particular phase of the war has been going on for 30 years from what I would consider the beginning phase of "Dasaria: the nwn server"

Our goal back in the creative stages was to establish the fact that the people of "adventuring" age would only have known war for as long as they have lived-- assuming they are human. The original pnp dasaria only allowed humans and in special cases perhaps 1/2 elf.

You also must realize that certain parts of Dasaria history have been adapted to suit the nwn game and the current state of affairs on the server. What im trying to do is give you a bit of background from the original campaign. Thats my disclaimer of any inconsistancies that crop up.

How long ago did the City of Dasar really fall?

2 and 1/2 years years before the opening phase of Dasaria: the nwn server. Thus the original destruction of the the city of dasar and its being overrun by undead was a relatively new development.

What were some of the other great cities that were destroyed in the initial invasion?

Durase was the site of some of the most heated battles, but the people of Durase held on and have rebuilt over time. Dasar was really the greatest city, and the only truly great city in the land.

Have any of the Varana Emporers had names that would be common knowledge among the people of Daris?

What of Dasarian Kings, we have heard rumors of a prince, but what were some of the original Kings names?

What action (if any) led to the initial Varana invasion?

Again-- Dasaria is a creation of several hands-- it was a basic theme that we have, and continue to flesh out. There are points that Mel and I dont quite agree on- for example the location ot The Rian-- this is an issue we have up till now dodged because of this ( and it IS far NW of daris )

Looking back through my notes I found an interesting passage that in a nutshell explained the origins of the varanite-dasarian conflict. This a passage desribing Dasaria in its most ancient stages. This is before any of the cities existed at all.

"When the Great Wood covered most of this land and the elves were young in Dasaria and the men even younger, there dwelt here a race of men who were long lived and strong in virtue and valor. Respecting the Land they dwelt in; they hunted and grew sustenance and the race grew- as did the Land itself through their efforts. The leader of these men was named Siril. As Siril's realm waxed in power, rumors began to reach the land of an army from across the black sea: from the distant realm known only as Exodon.

This army was marching from the west. It was led by a dark king, and that king's name was Canas and at his hand he wielded an artifact of immense power. It was a mace forged of dire metals. What cruel hand could forge such a weapon? The scrolls of the ancients point to many sources of the power of the mace. Some would say it was a product of unholy alliances and forged by Canas himself, but the fact remains it origin is one of historical speculation. Perhaps time will tell and the mace will be found again.

Canas swept across Dasaria from the west, destroying all before him and ravaging the land as he went. At the site where the Temple of Ki stands now, Siril and Canas met ,and there was fought a mighty battle. In the end, Siril defeated Canas and the mace was lost in the depths of waters. The temple now stands as if forever pondering in its own reflection in the water the fact that evil still threatens the balance of the land. Siril drove Canas from the land and the dark king fled back into the west. The king of what is now Dasaria hoped that Canas would trouble his people no more, but the evil will of Canas endured and was forever looking eastward and plotting is vengeance. Canas forsook his ties with Exodon and made this new land his home, and this land he would call Varana.

Siril's heir was the last known King of Dasar and his heir is named......"

[Jimmy]

Thanks for that Jeh! That clears up a few thoughts for me!

Cool, a colour map now!

-Jimmy

[broncoblitz]

this is great, is there any chance, that as time permits this stuff could be added to the world background section of the forums?

this is the kind of stuff that will really help people flesh out some of their characters pasts.

[Depheant]

I think the mace was broken up in three pieces, the characters were on a quest to locate them.

Varana wanted them too. When you guys stopped playing I believe you had once piece, Varana another and the last was rumoured to have been in the ruins of Durase?

[Astamyre]

A timeline would be a very very handy thing to have on the forums. Jeh or Mel would probably be the best for the job, but they're probably hell busy, so I'll just anxiously await the arrival of the update.
*sits in his chair staring at the wall, waiting*

-Jimmy

I'll do my best from what I remember and the other oldies can add/ clarify as we go, I dont have dates so the list is going from past to present.

- Redboots are formed
- Shadow seeks aid from the Daris heroes
- Shadow and Daris Heroes take back Dasar
- Nergalites are Formed
- LDS is formed
- News of Druagua and Varanite falling out
- Ravenwatch Falls
- Major rebuilding of Dasar starts
- Suicide Kings (SK) are formed
- Ex members of the SK form the Renegades
- Knights of the Fist emerge in Dasar
- Stronghold is Built
- Torvinhoc(sp?) Hall opens its doors
- Shai Tribe discovered
- Claw Capture Peribo
- Heroes Rescue Peribo
- Bearis acts weird
- Fenia rescued
- Varanites Assult Daris
- Heroes of Daris Assult Varanites
- Heroes discover and destroy Varanite clone lab
- Claw Defeat Dasarian Heroes
- Dasarian Heroes Escape Varanite Prison

That may not be in the exact order but it's close to, Im working from memory, thats not close to photographic

There is some big gaps in there in places as well.

[Astamyre]

I think the mace was broken up in three pieces, the characters were on a quest to locate them.

Varana wanted them too. When you guys stopped playing I believe you had once piece, Varana another and the last was rumoured to have been in the ruins of Durase?

I guess the Varanites have 2 pieces now

[Holly]

ahh wow!

[Jimmy]

Nice, thanks Ast, having the sequence of events will be really handy.

Torvinhoc(sp?) Hall opens its doors

Hehe No-one spells it right, especially the DMs
It's "Torinvhork"

*awaits a bolt of lightning to strike him down*

-Jimmy

[Trinny]

Fantastic ;P

This helps a few things I was aware of before Varan took the vikllage click into place.


All I want to say is, this is great, and I love the fact there are plotlines that are tied into the history as you presaented it, that as far as I have seen are player run , albeit by payes that have been around a long time, from what I know. I wondered what / how people were generating some of the bigger plotlines, even if I only saw some small part of them, and this clears that up wonderfully


I cant wait 'til the new modules are up and this can carry on developing


And I wholeheartedly agree this would do well being posted as part of Dasarias background for new player to read and understand.


I almost get the feeling Dasaria had started to move a long way from what you had envisaged / created before NWN, and that this history and similar information will help people pull into the world as you saw it from the start, and genrate storylines that have concrete groundings in the history of the place

Great post Jeh, uhm, I would have loved it if it was up as histoy a long time ago ;P


Long Live The King... wherever he may be ;P



damnit, would like to ad, I been drinkking beer. Dunno If I need to mention it... but it's hard to tell, considerin' ;P

[broncoblitz]

Ooo i thought of another question... Which side is the City of Caer alligned with?

[Mia]

I would have reordered a few of the things in Ast's list, but a lot of the key events are basically in order, and a lot of those things happened in close proximity to each other.

Here are a few other events in the history of NWN Dasaria that may interest you. I'll try and put them in perspective of Ast's list where I can:

Bugs start feeding on farmers
Varanite encampments start appearing in the Northern Forest
Varanites establish major presense in the Varanite Caves
Plan wrought to form an alliance between the Varanites & the Lizard Folk
Lord Edimar & Varanite contingent cornered in Abandoned Mines by Elven hunting party
Plot by Duke Xeverea to produce a vast army of undead in Dasar uncovered
Portal stone to Dasar recovered
First Castle in Daris is built by Lord Kracc of Dasaria
Other well established and wealthy heros of Daris drive housing requests to a frenzy
First Dasarian charity fights held in Lord Kracc's arena
Carpenter's Guild formed by Faith Melan, Lord Hunar, and Banarak to meet housing demand
Redboots are formed by Captain Kurich and other devoted Guards of Daris
Gate to Pandemonium discovered in Dasar tower
Plot for summoning THE ONE uncovered, and Portal Stone to Defile recovered
Varanite Talon start to march south against Daris.
Shadow, powerful cleric of Nergal, seeks aid from Daris heros to wrest Dasar the hold of Varana & Duke Xeverea.
Shadow of Nergal fights to free Dasar to reclaim power for Nergal's undead in Dasar. Kurich of Marduk fights to free Dasar to reclaim the city from Varanites and Undead. After the Varana has been pushed out, Kurich fights Dreadlord Torraine, a Nergal BlackGuard for control of the city. Though Kurich wins the personal battle, it wins them only the outer half of the Dasar ruins from Nergal's undead.
Shadow builds the central temple of Nergal in inner Dasar.


Somewhere a little later in the sequence, the Council of Lords is formed to hand down Laws for the realm.

There are plenty of other events that came to mind a little bit ago, before I dozed off... Maybe I'll remember more tomorrow.

Mia

[Astamyre]

The dam council... I knew I was missing a faction, but for the life of me couldn't remember what.

Haps given time we could add dates (in dasarian time) to these things, they would hardly be accurate but would give a good idea of the time lag between events. besides who keeps accurate mesurements of time when theres a war on