Spell Change Request - Greater Planar Binding

[DM Chicken Little]

In the spirit of what Jae said:

No, i dont think it should be changed. Falson, if you want to lose the spell...ill delevel you according to DM policy, and you can level back up to get a different spell.

This spell can be argued for months with everyone on both sides having good points, but i dont see any of them IMO having enough merit to change it. Mages are powerful enough.

[Vahene]

I've tried to stay out of this, but I want to address one point.. just to back Jae up. Sorcerers are unable to pick another spell at the 20th level. Its fantastic that CL's offering what he is for Falson, because we can't level past 20th, so we're unable to just 'pick another spell'. Wizards, druids, clerics--any other spell caster, except perhaps bards, as they're in the same situation, have that ability. Sorcerers, bards--they do not. They are stuck with what they pick once they attain level 20.

That's the one point I think a lot of people in this thread are perhaps forgetting, or completely over looking. I had lesser planar, planar, and greater planar at one point. I purposely didn't take gate because of the duration. Falson has a point about this spell. I too would support the duration getting changed.. but that's hardly my decision. Unless you've played a sorcerer, I'm sorry, it is NOT the same as playing a wizard. Wizards can pick and choose from any spell on the list, sorcerers don't have that luxury once they achieve level 20. Wizards always will. It's the sole reason I keep Heaven out of PvP as much as I can, and the reason Ivae was created.

Now that I've let out my little rant, I'll go away and make myself small again.

-K

[Peregrinus]

Two things in conclusion:

DMs, thank you for listening and giving feedback, I understand the reasons for your opinion, I still think that a duration increase could make the spell more useable, but we'll just disagree. As to the offer, CL, nah, I'll actually stick with it and try and firgure out how to get the timing on GPB to make it actually useful, besides, its kinda fun to RP using "Bob the Celestial Avenger."

Second, please realize folks, just because I advocate making a spell better does not mean that I'm seeking more power for myself, last I checked this spell was on the Cleric, Sorc/Wiz and I -think- (could be wrong), Druid spell lists. Consider that before you make accusations of having a "god-complex," its offensive and only reflects badly on yourselves when you debate by making attacks on the person with the opposing idea.

I think for my next spell to talk about, we will discuss Isaac's Greater Missile Swarm. ;p

[DM Chicken Little]

I think for my next spell to talk about, we will discuss Isaac's Greater Missile Swarm. ;p

Aww yea...lets get into that one!

[Vahene]

My thoughts on Isaac might not be so popular. I have a mage as well as a rogue.

[Wyvern]

Feel free to discuss it, but might I suggest that it is started in a seperate thread, for clarity?

Locking this one down so we finish on a high. Next!