Detect Evil

'Ling Niles · Post by **'Ling Niles** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:32 am

I've talked to a few paladins about "Detect Evil" and one even used it on me IC through a tell one day. I thought it was very cool, and an overall good idea since they should be able to do that.

Would everyone else be alright (not to mention truthful

) if they started doing this? I think it fits very well...

Just don't want Paladins going around using Detect Evil on everyone they see though, that'd ruin some things.

Any opinions?

Brigadier Syndir Isendur · Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:57 am

If a paladin were to asks me through a tell if my character was evil, I'd tell them.

Boon · Post by **Boon** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:02 am

I have no problem with it. But I wouldn't just give out my alignment. I'd try to descibe a feeling they get when detecting.

Kell · Post by **Kell** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:15 am

If a paladin asks me by tell if I am evil, the first time asked I tell them that there's something off about the character. The second time, I give them another hint. The third time I tell them that deffinitely; this creature is evil.

I will never lie about it. It's a paladins ability, so there is no reason to lie. It's pure RP.

whiteguyinblues · Post by **whiteguyinblues** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:19 am

I have no problem with it. But I wouldn't just give out my alignment. I'd try to describe a feeling they get when detecting.

I agree. Should be a feeling and not you detect Lawful Evil.

I remember Holly tried to detect evil on Lee once. The response was a mixed bag of feelings with sprinkles on top.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:57 pm

I personally think that when a paladin sends a tell and they go *detects evil* When you reply be truthful and dont make them wonder and have to ask you again.. In D&D when a paladin detects evil does he go there is something strange about this man and the people around him.. Its simple just to say *You detect evil* but not that you have to say what exact alignment it is but a simple evil is detected.

If you want me to I have seen devices for Detect evil several times and if you wish I can see about learning how to create a device on how to get them working.

Just my little comments

Crimson Knightmare · Post by **Crimson Knightmare** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:59 pm

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Ugh sorry that was me writing as guest thought i was logged in

Phyr'vyrae · Post by **Phyr'vyrae** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:49 am

Hmm don't know but maybe it should be Paladin levels + d20 vs err um something + d20 - Black Guard levels.

Natural 20 or 35+ total detects direction of the evil, if your being sneaky.

Taking 1 Level shouldn't give you the ability to always detect, their still learning. Control emotions you must Padawan o wait I mean...

lankycheese · Post by **lankycheese** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:05 am

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Yup exactly not all Paladins have this ability perfect. Til has some wierd things happening right now which is making his detect evil rather clouded when scanning some people. Some, not all

And of course he is just a youngin so still has more to learn.

He may be level 20, but Detect Evil to me is something much more about sense of mind, which I am playing Til still has alot to learn about.
Level 20 should not mean the end of his training.

Plus it's a good excuse when I make mistakes

Phyr'vyrae · Post by **Phyr'vyrae** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:12 am

after thought:
instead of a tell, the paladin just talks *detects evil* 13 + 12

Those around him then "Tell" the paladin the results. DE - failed 14 + 19

If your a BG and dont want to let them know you can do something like DE - Evil - 11 + 2 instead of
DE - Evil - 11 + 12 - 10

In the case of both parties rolling a natural 20 then highest score determines the result eg Paladin 12 + 20 vs 14 + 20 DE - Failed.

Crimson Knightmare · Post by **Crimson Knightmare** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:04 pm

There should be absolutly -NO- skill check trying to determine if a person is evil or not.. What if a pally roles a one on another unknown paladin he hasnt heard about and it makes them out as evil... Sorry if paladins do any evil action they are striped of all powers and cant lvl as a pally inless they seek out a high lvl cleric of lawful good alignment.. (got that from 2nd edition d&d) Also looking at the book it says A paladin can detect the presence of evil intent up to 60ft away by concentrating on locating evil(like using a tell) in a particular direction. He can do this as often as desired, but each attempt takes one round. This ability detects evil monsters and charectors. That was taken from the book it self.. THere should be no skill check becuase well... Like I stated before.. Rolling a one can turn out horrible.

Another thing how would you set the dc of a person of evil alignment? What would a paladin have to role for them to truly detect evil?

Like Lawful evil: *detects evil* 13 +12 O crap failed my skill check. If this would be enforced it would be alot of work and having to set up dc's and all this stuff for each alignment.

Yup exactly not all Paladins have this ability perfect. Til has some wierd things happening right now which is making his detect evil rather clouded when scanning some people. Some, not all And of course he is just a youngin so still has more to learn.

Paladins have the ability and it does not fail at all looking at d&d even though Dasaria may be going off or away from D&d the game was made like that and im just putting my 2 cents in. What is there to learn about a ability that they have been training for? How are some paladins not perfect when using detect evil? As I read your comment Tilirinn it makes a point. Yes people never stop learning we continue to learn and grow but this is a ability all paladins have.. Up holders of law and good protecting the innocent, destroying all evil. A paladin can detect who is evil at heart and who has the evil intent.

Well this is just my extra 4 cents

Kell · Post by **Kell** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:02 pm

What are the corebook rules on this? I would look it up, but well.. not right now, they are out of reach at the moment.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:15 pm

Paladins get the ability for free and can be used as many times as he wants though looking at the priest spell "Detect Evil" it reads...

This spell discovers emanations of evil, or of good in the case of the reverse spell, from any creature, object, or area. Charector alignment howeever is revealed only under unusual circumstances.

Though it sais that alignment is given only under unusual circumstances its hard to do that in game and i think dm's have better things to do then detect evil where as someoen can just give an answer.. you cant really hide being evil if you killed several people

Crimson Knightmare · Post by **Crimson Knightmare** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:17 pm

Gahthat was me up there

Redder · Post by **Redder** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:32 pm

For some, they just stand out so much as Evil, they don't even need to use their detect skill as they will sense them from 7 miles away.

For others, the Tell from the Paladin is a good idea and it is really up to the person receiving the Tell as to how they will respond, some may respond with a hint, some may respond with an oustanding Yes and this comes down to how the player feels their character would be percieved.

This is just my opinion and I know some may agree, some may disagree, some may just want to hunt me down for popping my head in here