Levels required info

Trinny · Post by **Trinny** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:10 am

Hmm. I am trying to make dust of topaz, but I get no optiion, despite having plenty of mineral topaz, to cut it at the gemcutters stone.

Now, I would assume this is because I am not a high enough level gemcrafter.. BUT, when enchanting, you do still see the option to create what you are after if you are not high enough level; and when selected it tells you what level you need to be and what chance you would have of making the item at that level...

So, I'm confused. Is it just that some trades tell you what level you need to be, whereas other simply dont display the option? Or is the gemcutters stone missing a 'Next...' page?

Post by **jhr4n** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:14 am

Lets see, unless I'm mistaken, dust is considered a by-product, so you don't see it as a option. It's just something you get when you try to cut a topaz.

Trinny · Post by **Trinny** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:21 am

Thats what I mean, I get no option to cut topaz

Depheant · Post by **Depheant** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:05 pm

I've got no idea, I'll look into it.

broncoblitz · Post by **broncoblitz** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:17 pm

Hey deph ive also noticed that there is a huge difference between the number of recipes on the daris server and on the trades server.

in daris it says 2000+
on the trades it says 1200+

Depheant · Post by **Depheant** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:18 pm

Yes. I removed some from Trades. I will on Daris too when I get the chance.

Trinny · Post by **Trinny** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:26 am

Dunno if this helps Deph, but I've made a list of what gem's i'd neet co cut to get the dusts, and what gem cutting options are available at the cutting stone;

Gems for Elemental Bags;

bag/gem dust/available to cut

sparks-D/FireAgate y
Acid-D/Saphire n
Fire-D/FireOpal n
Lightning-D/Topaz n
Frost-D/Topaz n
Thunder-D/Ruby n
Posion-D/Emerald n

Stones available for cutting;

Greenstone
Malachite
Fire Agate
Aventurine
Phenalope
Amethyst

Galek Haingorn · Post by **Galek Haingorn** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:07 pm

Now this kind of goes along with the topic... kinda.. but anyway. I found out today that everything is level dependant, not only by skill level, but by character level as well. Now normally that wouldn't bother me if everyone started out the same level, but we didn't. So now we have the people who RP and have fun doing things such as crafting and participating in the community at somewhat lower levels, and then we have the people who basically power gamed there way in a day to season 20. Granted this is abit black and white because i'm sure there are season 20's out there that rp and such and vice versa. Anyway both groups can craft, but the season 20 can get farther with there skills in the trades then the lower seasoned characters. So basically we have people being awarded for whoring xp and powergaming pre-server upgrade. Now if you ask me thats abit unfair. i've been playing on this server since.. oh god almost a year now, and i have YET to get a season 20 character. Now i understand the reasoning behind it, but it's still unfair don't you think? I mean I honestly don't care too much about my character level, but more of what he can do in the community. I enjoy greatly crafting and I love being able to supply people with items and have that type of interaction. but now with the level requirement limiting the amount of skills I can learn, it's abit frustrating to see the higher seasoned characters hit a higher level of crafting due to the simple fact that they decided to go gain xp before the crafting system was enabled. Not to mention nowadays it's practically impossible to season a higher level character decently fast if you wanted to, so basically i'm screwed if i want to learn higher skills in trading. Bah.. well enough of this, just my opinion and my two cents about the subject.
-Galek Haingorn

Depheant · Post by **Depheant** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:13 pm

I said wipe the character levels too not just inventories.

The way to restrict trade skills is based on character levels; it's a 4 to 1 ratio.

For every character level you have 4 trade skill levels. I suggest if you really want to continue, you focus on one trade. At level 5 you could master it if you did that.

See... you have to work with others whether you like it or not, whether it's fair or not.

Oh, we could use tokens... No, wait. That's why ATS went out.

Trinny · Post by **Trinny** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:12 pm

I havent seen a single high level char on since the wipe that was powergamed to the level they are at before the wipe. That's just what ive seen though, not saying there arent any around. (and ones I dont think powergamed may have done.. I didnt take a lot of notice to be honest)

I think there was a choice as to whether you restarted your charachter, I decided not to because it has taken me a long time to get my chars where they are. (Trinny and Teira, 16th & 14th , since Beginning February) and I dont really care that I have made what some people would call 'mistakes' in the build of them, that will lead to me not having 'maxed out' charachters when and if they do get to level 20.

But, anyway, I do agree that having a character level restriction on the tradesskills is a bit strange. I would prefer there not to be a restricton.

But then again.. on a server like Dasaria that is trying to controll the availability of high level magic items, maybe it does make sense after all...? but, isnt it duplicating the efforts of the ILR system?

Hmmm.. also, maybe.. having charachter level restrictions could become an incentive to powergame .. *gotta get to level 20 so I can make me a Uber Sword of ZZZzzz*

...AnyWay! Dont let's detract from the reason I started this post! I cant cut most of my dang gems to get their dusts ;P

Trinny · Post by **Trinny** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:35 pm

Is there any news on the cutting stone not showing up all the gems? 'cos, it's stopping me from progressing much in two different trades now

And thankyou very much in advance, I know your all really busy doing a great job