About trade skill point loss...

[GM Joker]

Hunar posted this in the General forums a while back. I felt it was a good idea to post it here as well.

When you enter the Trades server, and that means ANY time you enter the trades server via the server portal, CHECK YOUR INVENTORY 1st THING! If your skill tokens are outside of your tradeskill toolbox, put them back into your tradeskill toolbox immediatly. This is the cause of tradeskill point loss. I am currently looking for a resolution to this problem, and if anyone happens to come across a solution please email me or leave a reply in this thread. Also a good idea when working trades is to leave AT LEAST 1/2 of 1 page of your inventory open. The main reason for this is when you enter the trades server, your tokens load into your inventory. If your inventory is full, they have no where to go but on the ground.

[GM Joker]

This Trades Skill point loss is getting out of hand. I am spending WAY too much time correcting this. I am very close to petitioning the removal of the ATS. The only reason I haven't already is that I know how much many of you enjoy it. Believe me when I tell you that I am NOT enjoying this.

I am getting all kinds of varying stories when I question people about what they did, when they were lost, etc.. Many have flat out told me they didn't follow my advice. Others swear they did then get impatient when I keep questioning them. From now on TOUGH! You either pay attention and answer my questions with patients and honesty or you can start over from ZERO.

Amendment to Advice on keeping your Skill Points from random loss: From now on, check your Inventory before you LEAVE the Trades Server. Perhaps while you are working your skills the tokens are loading into your inventory, not the Toolbox. This applies to the ENTIRE TRADES SERVER. Not just the trades buildings. Also, if you lose tokens due to your inventory being too full then you totally ignored the advice given and you can start from zero.

I cannot pin down the problem without the help from the people using the system. If you think that is too much to ask then imagine having to start over from zero when I burn out from lack of help.

~Joker

[Dava]

I may be guilty of this and have lost my skill tokens to boot ! I'm also probably one of the one's that prompted this post.

If I've lost em' then fair enough. (sigh* I've even read the forums on this before hand, I just got lazy). Do I get em' back goz' i asked before this post?.....only askin', there's no harm in that .

Mr. GM Joker. If you need to ask me anything about what happened then please do. I'm an open book.

EVERYONE!, pls take notice of this. All those who trade spend alot of time doing it.....and trust me you don't want to lose em'!!!

[Zanthoris]

There are two primary causes of loss that I have seen and can identify. One occurs when your inventory is not empty enough (note I do not say full here you need at least half a page empty). This goes both for entering or leaving a trade area and for crafting, its very easy to fill your inventory when tanning for example when those bundles of logs start splitting up. I buy my logs in singles to avoid this completely. Another problem I have seen is during the crafting process. It goes for crafting bags in tailoring for sure but may also apply to other trades. Say you successfully craft a bag. The option to try again comes rather quickly but the actual message that you receive the bag (lower right window) takes awhile. If you try to craft another one before that one is actually put into your inventory, not only will you not ever get the bag you crafted but if you gained skill points for doing so the tokens will go to your inventory instead of the tradeskill box. I have lost tailoring skill twice now for no apparent reason so this does not account for all losses but probably for most. Hopefully this info will help many of you avoid the losses and take some pressure off poor Joker, or at least help him track some of the problems. On a similar note, there is also a problem with jewelcrafting that both creates multiple tradeskill journals and screws up your skill points. The journals go away after you leave and re-enter trades but the skill points stay messed up. But instead of clearing to 0 they tend to go to some overly high value like 483 or whatever. Well thats about the limit of my knowledge on this problem, hope it helps someone.

[Mathias Crew]

my inventory was nowhere close to full! i just jewelcraft and smelt iron i have two and a half pages of bags so everything goes in there i have 3 whole pages empty!! i always check my skill points no matter what! i put way too much time into it and my roommate lost his once the other day to so i always look? the wierd thing is i lost 200 in mining and all my jewelcrafting 168 and gem cutting 200 points but my blacksmithing for 153 is still there? why would i have lost all the rest? im at a loss? this is bunk lol i even watched the warnings and checked all the time and still just to get jacked anyways? sweet!!! if someone could help id apreciate it i talked to dm gojo i think it was told me to post this? im not as worried about my mining as i have already started again and am at 83 in like 20 min but the rest the jewel stuff and gem cutting hurts that cost me a ton of money! HELP!! LOL!